Sunday, June 27, 2021

TTS Prototype update

 About a year ago I posted about some of the prototypes I'd implemented on Tabletop Simulator. Man, has it been that long? Here's an update, kinda like The List, but just for TTS mods. I currently have 16 total virtual prototypes. In alphabetical order:

All For One

My oldest project that was any good. I came in on this one as a co-designer in about 2003! After waves of development, playtesting, and shelf-sitting, I recently revived this white whale again, gave it a much-needed update, and I think it's in pretty good shape... then I promptly put it back on the shelf (at least in part due to the pandemic). I finally made a TTS mod recently, and I hope to play it some more virtually soon. I've also begun pitching it to publishers.


Apotheosis

A much newer game, but still pretty old if we're talking about the initial idea (a Worker Placement game where your workers level up). I stalled out on this one until my friend Rick Holzgrafe joined the project as a co-designer, he really got this one back on track, and we worked on it heavily up until the pandemic started, and then virtually afterward. We have pitched Apotheosis to a few publishers, one of which seemed very interested in setting it in their universe, which would have been a perfect fit. We even re-skinned the prototype using their graphics/icons. In playing with them (they gave it 3 or 4 iterations), we found and made some significant improvements, but in the end they decided not to sign the game. So we re-re-skinned it back to the generic fantasy setting, and I'm continuing to pitch the latest version around.


Automatown

I came up with the idea for this worker placement game where your workers are robots, and you building an army to take over the city while getting carried away answering an interview question, and then ended up making a prototype. The game wasn't getting anywhere, and I ended up taking on a co-designer, Michael Brown, who had done some print and play testing for the game and enjoyed it. He has made some big strides with it, but I guess it's been sitting idle for a while now.


Atomic Age

This was a silly little thing I came up with for James Matthe's (may he rest in peace) Manhattan Project Dice Game design contest. I wasn't planning on entering that contest, but I got an idea in my head for a little roll & write / role selection game with the Manhattan Project trappings, so I put this together and entered it. It could use some work, and I don't think James was wanting a roll & write, so it didn't win the contest or anything (I never expected it to), but I think it's an alright little game. I made a TTS mod one day just because it didn't seem like it would be tough to do, and I played around with it solo a few times, haven't tried subjecting any playtesters to it though, other than Isaac Shalev and Andy Van Zandt, who both played it while i was working on it for the contest. 


Candyland/No Thanks mashup

Technically I have a virtual prototype for this, because I found a Candyland mod (there are several!), and just added some checkers to use as "No Thanks" chips. A couple of my players gave it a proof of concept test (we took a few turns to see how it felt), and it definitely worked. I have a few ideas for things to address if I ever decide to take this one any further.






Deities & Demigods

Another design that's been sitting around for a while now, TMG was going to publish it, and I even got a little bit of art done - but that was put on hold about the time the pandemic started. I had gone down a rabbit hole with regard to theme, because it seems like there are so many Greek Mythology games out there -- but I'm second guessing my crazy, Lion King style "Olympus on the Serengeti " idea now. I'm pitching the game with the original theme, and if a publisher picks it up, it'll be up to them how to make it stand out :)


Dice Works

Another really old design that I never did anything with. It works well as a real time dice drafting game, and since I made a mod for it earlier this year, I tried part of a game thinking TTS would be lousy for a real time dexterity-based game -- but it actually worked pretty well. The necessary combos could stand to be a little more sophisticated, but the game itself seems to work well. One challenge is that a lot of gamers just aren't into real time play, so it might be hard to find an audience.



Division of Labor

My newest project (as of mid-2021), this I-Cut-You-Choose Worker Placement game came together pretty quickly when I had a Twitter follower volunteer to create a TTS mod for it. I managed a first test (2p) with my friend Rick a coupe of weeks ago, we didn't play through an entire game (indeed, I'm not sure what the game end condition should even be!), and based on that I've been able to iron out some obvious details. I've got v1.1 ready to try now, but I've missed out on playtesting the last 2 weekends in a row! I hope to get this to the table soon, as there's nothing I can do with it until it gets played again.


Exhibit: Artifacts of the Ages

One of my more finished, and frankly probably one of my better designs, Exhibit is a "Bluff Auction" game that's like playing 6 simultaneous games of Liar's Dice. It was at one time, years ago, signed by a publisher, but it was retuned for reasons unrelated to the game itself, and it's just been sitting around ever since. I figured it's about time I tried again to get it published, so I made a TTS mod for it.



Isle of Trains Boardgame

Isle of Trains was published as the result of a 54-card game design contest back in 2014. The publisher had asked for an expansion, and we provided one in December 2015, they even got some art done for it, but for various reasons it never came out. More recently they asked us about expanding the game to be a board game rather than just a card game, so we started thinking along those lines and came up with a Rondel game with a circle of tiles that you move your train on (like Teotihuacan). Co-designer Dan and I had differing thoughts about the target weight of the game - I was stuck in the mindset of the publisher putting the game out (even long after it was pretty clear that wasn't going to happen), while Dan (and at least one of my main playtesters) was interested in making it a bit heavier. When I was working on it (before the pandemic hit), I had a working prototype of a light-ish version of the game, and after the pandemic I input that into TTS, and played it a couple of times. At this point I think Dan was probably right, maybe it ought to be a bit deeper.  


Keeping Up With The Joneses

The first new game I designed post-pandemic, I actually played this rondel game about 1-upping your neighbors by myself (solo playing 2 or 3 hands) quite a bit -- something I very rarely bother to do. Then I made a TTS mod for it and played with my online playtesters. This one iterated pretty quickly to a point where I think it's "almost done," with the biggest challenge being that it took longer than I had expected (and intended) to play. I got that down a bit, and adjusted my expectations, and now I think it's within tweaking range, so I've mentioned it to a couple of publishers to see if they'd be interested in a proper pitch.


Kilauea

This really old Mancala mechanism game about sacrificing people to a volcano god to avoid fiery lava being sent your way was actually relatively well received at my old game group where I used to bring my prototypes. Recently when I tried to recruit co-designers to help revive some old designs, someone showed some interest in this one, then he made some strides revising it. I took his updated files and made a TTS mod, and we had a video chat about it one time, but after that I'm afraid it kinda fell off the radar a bit.


Reading Railroad

This attempt to marry a word building game (a la Scrabble) with a connection game (a la Railroad Tycoon) was a personal favorite idea for a while, even if not a favorite design. I actually had something that worked, and was even requested at that game night I mentioned above! I entered it in a contest, and got universally poor feedback, even showing distaste that I might try to trick people into playing a genre they wouldn't want to play. After a loooong hiatus, I revived this one a while ago, made a TTS mod and played it once, and even played it IRL once as well... now I'm afraid the game might just not work the way I'd hoped :/


Riders of the Pony Express

I've seen a few attempts at a low-bid auction, but never one I thought really worked well. I tried my hand at that mechanic in this route planning game about delivering parcels across the southwest. I started this design about the time I saw a post by Gil Hova about his "4p challenge," so I decided to try that out. Let me tell you, it worked great! I made more progress in a single month on that game than I have made on maybe any game I had ever worked on before. I got the game to a point I was pretty happy with it, and then it kind of sat on the shelf for a while. Every once in a while I'd bring it to a convention and get it played, but it always ended up back on the shelf after that. Right before the pandemic, I brought it out again with my then-regular playtest group, and it went over pretty well, with the biggest challenge probably being setup hassle, and we thought of an idea to combat that, though I have yet to implement it. I did however take the time to create a TTS mod, though I haven't played with it yet.


Sails & Sorcery

Mike had an idea to mash up my deck learning card game Eminent Domain with his favorite classic eurogame El Grande, and he really impressed me with how much effort he and work he put into it, being his first real game design of this scope (he's not really a designer, though he did make Templar Intrigue, a werewolf style game). He was hesitant to let me even see the game until he was ready, because I tend to sort of take over a design, and he wanted to get it farther along first. Eventually, he did show me the game, and handed it over to me for development, and as he expected, I got right in there and rebuilt it from the ground up, trying to capture the essence of what he was trying to do. I recently made a TTS mod for it, and I've played a couple of games online. 


Skye Frontier

I heard of a game called King of Frontier, which sounded like a cross between Carcassonne and Puerto Rico, a role selection tile laying game where you could build up your little area and produce and trade resources. It sounded great, but when I got a chance to play I found it kinda lacking. Some time later, I was playing Isle of Skye, a wonderful I-Cut-You-Choose tile laying game, and it occurred to me that if you basically played King of Frontier with the tiles from Isle of Skye, it might work better... so I created a mashup of those two games. The prototype just used my copy of Isle of Skye plus a handful of cubes in 3 colors for production, and it seemed to work really well. I had gone through some iterations and thought the game was coming along, but of course, it ended up on the shelf and didn't come back down for a while. A couple of years ago I brought it to a convention in Phoenix and got a chance to play, only to find out I'd forgotten the player boards at home -- so I tried it without player boards and found that it worked just fine, if not better, without them! That was the last I'd thought of that game, until recently when I was reading some of my old posts, and decided to revive this one. It was easy to make a TTS mod, as I just found an Isle of Skye mod, and added the cubes. One of my readers has played this one a couple of times recently and given me some feedback, and it still seems to work pretty well as far as I can tell. I'd love to play it again soon, and if it does indeed work well, maybe I need to start a re-theme. Since I've been calling it Skye Frontier, I feel like something stemampunky with airships and flying islands would somehow be cool, or cloud mins like Bespin in Star Wars r something. But of course, it could be anything really - I'm open to suggestions!


Winds of Fate

An white whale design of mine, Odysseus: Winds of Fate has never fully come together for me. I've got most of the parts worked out, but somehow I just haven't been able to finish it off. I made a TTS mod a while ago for it, but I haven't gotten around to trying it, and I fear I may have lost some impetus to work on it. Maybe one of these days my interest will re-invigorate and I'll come back to it.

Sunday, June 20, 2021

Prototype revival: Skye Frontier

 It's been about 3.5 years since the last time I played Skye Frontier, my Isle of Skye/King of Frontier mashup. Of course, it's one of those "designs with so much potential" that I know so well. I seem to have a lot of those, don't I? Backburnered, or forgotten games that I think have "so much potential" every time I read my old notes about them...

Well, a little while ago it occurred to me how easy it would be to make a TTS mod for this game, as long as I could find a mod for Isle of Skye -- just add a few infinite bags with gray, green, and blue cubes, and that's it! So that's what I have done, and now I have a virtual prototype of Skye Frontier!

In addition, I noticed a comment on that old blog post (linked above) from Michael Brown, a Utah based designer who has commented a lot on my posts, done some playtesting for some of my games, and came on board as a co-designer on Automatown. The comment was saying that if he could pick up a copy of Isle of Skye, then he'd give my mashup a try. I didn't feel at all bad about that, because even if he didn't like my mashup, Isle of Skye is a fantastic game all its own :)

I emailed Michael to see if he ever did pick up a copy of Isle of Skye, and if so, whether he had tried Skye Frontier at all. I didn't expect that he would have even remembered that, but if he had, I was interested to hear about it! As it turned out, he had not gotten Isle of Skye, but had been meaning to for a few years, so he went to his FLGS and picked up a copy, then he gathered the cubes needed to try Skye Frontier, and gave it a play with his wife. He wrote a nice, detailed blog post about his session.

Now, in talking about that session with him, it seems he played a few rules wrong... they didn't take VP out of the supply when completing areas, and they doubled the points from scroll tiles. But I think the sum total of that was mostly that the game may have gone a little longer than it should have (which favored his heavy shipping strategy over Alison's more generalized strategy) - at the very least, the final shipping phase he mentioned (which netted Mike +6 points on Alison) wouldn't have happened. But at the same time, un-doubling the scroll tiles would cause a similar net loss for Alison, so the final score might not have been much different after all (hard to be certain).

From the session report in that blog post, it sounded like the game was fairly close, with two really divergent strategies, so that generally sounds good. On the down side, Mike felt like his strategy was degenerate and boring, and if a strategy is degenerate and boring, then I'd prefer it not also be competitive. However, it also sounded like perhaps Alison would have done well to stop choosing Produce once Mike got that big lake set up... but then again, leaving that to Mike means she wouldn't have gotten as many cubes. Hard to say if she could have played differently to overtake the big shipping strategy.

In any case, I've got a TTS mod for the game all set up now, and I'd love to give it a shot one of these days and see how the latest version holds up. I worry a little if the Explore action isn't still a little bit too good/juicy.

Friday, June 18, 2021

Division of Labor (I-Cut-You-Choose Worker Placement game) - quick thought on penalties

I just had a thought about the penalty tracks in this game. Here it is for reference. I'm happy to hear opinions on it in the comments, though without much context I don't know if it'll make a ton of sense:

Currently you advance once on each penalty track per cube of that color in the group where you place your worker. In other words, if you place in a space with 3-1-2-1 (red-green-blue-yellow) cubes, you would advance the red penalty track 3 times, the green and yellow ones once each, and the blue one twice. Granted, 7 cubes at once is probably uncommon, but that's just an example. Based on this, I can set the track lengths and penalties such that they'll fill up at about a certain rate - maybe for any given color, figure an average of 2 advances per turn, so if the first penalty is at space 7, that's about 4 turns - but it's variable based on whether you're concentrating on that color's action or not.

However, this can get a little swingy. If a space ends up with, for example, 5 red cubes, that's a significant penalty, and I'd hate for spaces to get so undesirable players don't want to choose them, lest they sit around all game, maybe gathering more and more cubes...

I was thinking about possible solutions to this potential problem, and came up with a few ideas. To keep spaces from becoming TOO poisonous, perhaps I need to limit the number of advances per track per turn somehow. Here are a few ways that could be done:

  1. Limit the number of cubes allowed per group. That's arbitrary and weird, and might cause problems where you can't split cubes properly if certain situations arise.
  2. Limit the number of advances per color. A simple version is that you only advance once on each track if there are any cubes of that color there (and of course you don't advance if there aren't). Or the limit could be some arbitrary number, like 3, which would preserve the current feel, but knock out the edge case where a space has a large number of cubes on it
  3. Institute a clearing mechanism - if a split puts a group over a certain size (maybe 6?), return all those cubes to the bag. This could be used aggressively to remove cubes from the board (is that good or bad?)
  4. Combine #2 and #3 above... after a split, discard any cubes beyond 3 of each color, and still advance once per cube on the penalty tracks. That would limit the penalty to 3 per color, and limits the power of actions as well, and it COULD be used to remove some cubes from play, if that's an interesting dynamic

Option #4 sounds interesting. A player could still boost their action by discarding cubes-in-hand, though I'm not sure how useful that would be.

Side note: Red and Blue actions keep getting better and better the more cubes there are (though the returns do diminish), but if you're only allowed to build 1 building or train 1 level per action, then the green and yellow actions miss out on utilizing extra cubes. Maybe you should be able to build/train as much as you can afford. I started with that rule, but thought I should switch to 1x/turn after the first playtest.

Just counting 0-1 penalty per track might be simpler, easier to grok, and quicker to recognize/resolve. It might also clear up any question about how boosting with cubes from hand works: if there's already a cube of that color, then you lose nothing by boosting whether you count the boosted cube or not (which might be a good thing rules-wise)

I'm happy to hear opinions or arguments for any of these schemes:

  • Penalize each track at most once, if there are any number of cubes of that type there
  • After splitting, discard cubes over 3 of each color
  • Arbitrarily limit penalties to 3 per color per turn (but don't discard any cubes)

Thursday, June 17, 2021

The List: circa June, 2021

I've decided it might be a good idea to reorganize The List, and I've updated the categories a little bit: 

Published Games - this hasn't changed much lately, but I hope more games will bump up soon:

Terra Prime (BGG)
Eminent Domain (BGG)
Eminent Domain: Escalation (BGG) (expansion)
Eminent Domain: Exotica (BGG) (expansion)
Eminent Domain: Oblivion (BGG) (expansion)
Eminent Domain: Microcosm (BGG)
Isle of Trains (BGG)
Crusaders: Thy Will Be Done (BGG)
Crusaders: Divine Influence (BGG) (expansion) [printed and waiting]
Dungeon Roll: Winter Heroes (BGG)
- Gold West: Bandits promo (BGG)
- Gold West: Trading Post promo (BGG)
- Yokohama: Achievements & Free Agents promo (BGG)
Brainfreeze

Finished But Unpublished Games - in line to be published:
Eminent Domain Origins [Ready to print]
- Crusaders: Crimson Knight (expansion) [Ready to print]
- Crusaders: Amber Knight (expansion) [Ready to print]
Eminent Domain: Chaos Theory (dice game) [Ready for art]

Currently Pitching Games - actively looking for a publisher:
Olympus on the Serengeti  (FKA Deities and Demigods - might go back to this title) [Art paused]
Apotheosis (Co-Design with Rick Holzgrafe) [pitching to publishers]
Sails & Sorcery [with Michael Mindes] [pitching to publishers]
Riders of the Pony Express (BGG) [pitching to publishers]
Exhibit (BGG) [pitching to publishers]
Keeping Up with the Joneses [pitching to publishers]
All For One (BGG) (Co-Design with David Brain) [pitching to publishers]

"Finished" But Unpublished Games - abandoned or backburnered designs that are "done":
Dice Works (BGG)
Wizard's Tower (BGG) [Abandoned]
- Isle of Trains: All Aboard (expansion)
Suburban Sprawl
Watch It Played [Abandoned]
Now Boarding [Abandoned]
Rolling RealmsJaffee Realms (for Jamey Stegmaier's Rolling Realms)

Current Active Designs - these are the games I'm actively testing or working on:

Backburnered Designs - I kid myself into thinking that I'm still working on these:
- Isle Of Trains: The Board Game (Co-Design with Dan Keltner)
Joan of Arc

Promising Recent ideas:
Worker-ception [with David Short]
False Prophet [Mancala/Worker Placement]
Come And Play [Sesame Street memory/rondel game]
Candyland Game [Candyland/No Thanks mashup]


Old Standbys - games which have been around, 1/2 done and untouched, for years:
8/7 Central [Abandoned]
Hot & Fresh [Abandoned]
Reading Railroad [Abandoned]
Kilauea [a designer showed interest in co-designing, but that didn't go anywhere]
Automatown [with Michael Brown]
Dynasty [I still think this one has potential]

Misc and Really Old Stuff - most of this I'll probably never get back to, but I like keeping it around just in case:
9-Ball
Blockade Runner
- Roman Emperors (my version of someone else's game)
- Admirals of the Spanish Main (my version of someone else's game)
-Scourge of the High Seas [deckbuilding game with 2 center rows]

Here are notable comments on some of the above titles:

Olympus on the Serengeti  (FKA Deities and Demigods - might go back to this title) [Art paused]
I have started pitching this game to publishers, and I'm really having second thoughts about the whole Lion King style theme idea... I'm pitching it with the original Deities & Demigods theme, and I'm hoping that an interested publisher will worry about the theme issues I'd mentioned.

I put some thought into this, drafted up some rules, and made a physical prototype to try out. A Twitter follower was kind enough to implement my prototype files on Tabletop Simulator as well, so I've managed a first run 2p game with Rick. It went OK, pretty good as first runs go in fact, and I have made some changes that sound promising for a second attempt. I missed out on playtesting last weekend, so I look forward to Saturday when I can hopefully give this one another go.

All For One (BGG) (Co-Design with David Brain) [pitching to publishers]
After 17 or 18 years, it's finally time I started pitching this game! The latest changes seemed very good, and I found some time to make a TTS mod for the game. I'm hoping I can get some plays in especially if any publishers bite on it. I've always said that (until recently) the biggest disappointment of my game design career is that All For One hasn't been published. I'm hoping to rectify that sometime soon.

Worker-ception [with David Short]
Since David Short came in on this with me, we made a little headway with regard to how the game should work. I even came up with a host of mini-games to try out, so it might not be too hard to put together a prototype for this one at this point. I should probably write up the current ideas in a blog post! However, it hasn't been as high a priority for me, and apparently not for David either, as communication on it kind of fizzled out a while ago. I'm pretty sure we both want to get back to this one though.

This idea always struck me as a potentially simple-yet-fun, accessible game on the order of Ticket to Ride, and every time I look back on it I wonder why I don't put together a prototype and give it a shot. My most recent posts on the game (circa: 2008? Geez!) still sounds viable, and not even that hard to make a prototype for! I am trying to convince myself to make this the next game I work on - I should be able to get something together on TTS without TOO much trouble. Who knows, maybe that'll spur some development... if it turns out to have promise after a first play.

Wednesday, June 16, 2021

I-Cut-You-Choose Worker Placement: inaugural playtest and changes for next time

 Unfortunately, last weekend I was unable to do any playtesting, but the week before that I did manage to get a 2p test of the first draft of the I-Cut-You-Choose Worker Placement game (for lack of a better title, maybe Division of Labor?), and while just about every part of it needs some work, I'm relatively pleased with how it felt!

Prototype board

I have put together a physical prototype, but I'm not sure if I'll ever actually use it... I also uploaded those files to Tabletop Simulator (actually, someone volunteered to do that for me this time, and they did a much more sophisticated job than I probably would have!), and that's how I was able to get that first test in. The board I made is pretty uninspired:

First draft board for ICUC WP (working title: Division of Labor?)

Those center spaces are supposed to represent the spaceship / starting spaces, and even though it's awful graphic design, I was using those spaces as each player's starting 2 spaces. Yes, you'd split 8 cubes into 2 piles, and put them both into that odd shaped space -- that space was to act like 2 spaces at once. When you place there, you choose 1 pile of cubes and ignore the other, leaving it for the next person to place there. I have attempted to improve on that for next time, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet:
2nd draft of game board - to try next time
When splitting, follow the arrows
This was done in MS Paint, sorry about the 2 different styles of arrow!

This 2nd draft seems likely a little clearer, and closer to my initial intent to begin with. Each player now has their own 2 spaces (in their player color) in the center 3x3 section of the board. The very center space isn't really part of it, and neither are the 4 corners of the board (though I guess they could be). That leaves 44 spaces - I have no idea if that's a good or bad number!

8 does feel like a decent number of cubes to split at the beginning of each round. I've got players making that initial split concurrently, behind a screen, then revealing and placing the piles in the starting spaces. One question that came to mind is what to do if a starting space still has the 4 cubes from last round in it... presumably you'd add to them, which might be fine. I wonder if a max number of penalty track advances (per color) would be in order, mostly for that situation...

The player board worked as expected, as did the "research" track*. I had forgotten to make a file for penalty tracks, so the guy who made the mod for me did some up on his own.

* Side note: while I've been calling that a Research track, the buildings are more like your technologies, and the "research" ended up being extra workers and VP, so maybe better would be to call that a Training track

Training track and Workers

In the 1st draft, I went with [no effect] / [+1 worker] / [+1 worker] for the effects of the top token, and then [1vp] / [3vp] / [6vp] for the bottom token. I also started us each with 4 workers apiece. We were playing a 2 player game, and 4 workers to start felt like way too many. I could see more workers being a good idea in a game with more players, as there would be more spaces to utilize, but I'd have to try it to be sure. With 2 players I think perhaps starting with just 2 workers might be good (perhaps start with 2/3/4 workers for 2/3/4 player games).

Starting with too many workers already, adding another at 2 steps on the Training track seemed too easy, and the thought of adding a 2nd new worker on top of that didn't sound as attractive anymore, so next time I am going to try changing the 2nd space effect to [ne effect] instead of [+1 worker] and see if that feels more appropriate.

I also bumped up the VP values of the 2nd marker, as they just looked weak (not sure exactly what that should be worth yet).

Penalty tracks

I think the 1st draft penalty tracks might be a good length, but the penalties themselves need some work. The only in-game penalty that I could think of was increasing the cost of actions by a cube, but it turns out that causes some problems and raises a lot of questions. My opponent (Rick) suggested just making it loss of VP at game end, and that sounded like a good fix. I would have liked to have some in-game issue for players to have to deal with, but for now I'll try -2/-3/-5 VP (cumulative). You can still get out of these penalties (left to right) by covering hem with cubes "in hand" of the appropriate color.

The Actions

All of the actions in the game sort of worked, but it was a little weird how some of them (Explore, Experiment) worked no matter what, and some (Expand, Exploit) required a tile to have been Explored already in that location. I had figured it would work out, as Green and Blue cubes would just be "poison" if there wasn't a tile there yet, and Red cubes would become worth less and less as the board filled up with tiles. In a way, I like the sound of that, but realistically, it didn't feel great - a little too frustrating, especially if the red cubes just refuse to come out of the bag for some reason, and you just can't build anything at all.

Rick had a good suggestion for this as well: basically find a way to be able to Explore no matter what. My next draft will switch out the red action (Explore) with a new one: draw X cubes out of the cube bag and keep one of those "in hand," put the rest back in. Compare that to the Explore action, where you draw X tiles, choose 1, and get a bonus from it (which could be 1 cube in hand)... some of the tiles have no cube shown, so theoretically this new action will offer better choice of cube than Exploring (besides, if you take a cube when Exploring, then you're out a free scoring icon or building)

But we still need a way to draw tiles! So  let's say that ANY action could be used to Explore instead of the action indicated by the cubes' color. I think this will help a lot - you can ALWAYS explore, which populates the board with tiles, and gives you a thing, but maybe the specific actions are more efficient at their job. For example, Exploring can get you a Level-1 building for free, but your choice is limited, and it can never give you a Level-2 or 3 building at all. Similarly, Exploring can get you 1 scoring icon, but the Blue action can get you 1 per cube, so potentially several icons. And all of these are bolstered if you have built buildings to support them!

Oh, and on that note: I think the building that lets you draw 1 extra tile with exploring could apply that ability when drawing tiles (when Exploring) AND cubes out of the bag (when Recruiting - the new action).

Can't wait until next playtest!

Well, that about summarizes the changes I want to try next time I get a chance to play this game. Hopefully this weekend!

If this sound interesting to you, and you would like to blind test it on TTS with your group, let me know, I can probably get you access to the mod. I'd just ask for feedback in return!

Tuesday, June 01, 2021

I-Cut-You-Choose with more than 2 players

I stumbled across this video today (someone posted it in the new BGDL+ forums) talking about I-Cut-You-Choose with more than 2 players. It's not the process I'm using in my newest design, an I-Cut-You-Choose Worker Placement game, but I thought it would be really good to keep track of it in case I'd like to review it later:


The basic idea being that P1 splits something into 3 groups, P2 decides one thing they DON'T want, and trims one of the other two so they're "equal," then P3 chooses one thing... P2 gets the thing they trimmed (if it's still available), or the other, "equivalent" thing (if it's not), and P1 gets the remaining thing, and everyone should be happy... then they similarly divide up the trimmed piece.

This process would work for any number of players, but it looks like it gets pretty cumbersome pretty quickly as you add people. A pragmatic solution might be to discard the "trimmed" bit, or do something else with it (add it to the next group to be split?) - then it still should be the case that each player is happy with what they get, and it doesn't get too iterative.

For example, P1 takes 13 cube and splits them into 3 piles of 3, 4, and 6 cubes. Note that while these aren't even with respect to total number of cubes, they might be even (or close to even) with respect to total value of cubes. Then, P2 decides they don't want the 3-cube pile, and trims 1 cube off the 6-cube pile (making it a 5-cube pile instead) -- the trimmed cube is discarded, or maybe used later in some other part of the game. P3 get to pick any of the three piles, maybe they choose the 3-cube pile, because those specific cubes are really good for their position. Then P2 gets the 5-cube pile that they had trimmed, and P1 gets the remaining 4-cube pile.

P1 should be happy, because they (theoretically) split the cubes such that they'd like any pile, P2 should be happy, because they (again, theoretically) trimmed the 6-cube pile so they'd be equally happy with the 4-cube or the 5-cube pile, and P3 should be happy, because they got 1st pick of all the piles.

I'll note that "everyone being happy" is the goal when splitting a cake, but in a game there might be more of an aspect of "getting away with something." If the cubes have different (non-obvious) values to different players, then things like P3 in that example taking the 3-cube pile over the other two are reasonable, and there's an opportunity to make piles that are not so much "even" -- tempt someone into leaving you what you want by making a pile that's attractive to them! That's the crux of the ICYC mechanism in games, I think.